this week, ashley is back on she’s probably talking to other guys to talk all things dancing with the stars from the perspective of a fan, while i bring my professional ballroom dancer perspective to the conversation.

we’re talking choreography, what makes a great routine, whether the best dancer should always win, how viewers vote, and why the judges and the audience might not always be looking for the same things. plus, we get into lifts, tricks, and the difference between entertaining choreography and solid ballroom technique.

whether you watch for the celebrities, the pros, the drama, or the dancing itself, we’re breaking down the assumptions that shape how we watch the show.

🎧 listen now and let us know: are you watching dancing with the stars as a fan, a dance expert, or a little bit of both?